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1 out of 5 stars.
Fast dying batteries.
4 years ago
I tried to use these batteries for off grid homesteading, I had four of them connected in parallel and they went dead in three hours.
No, I do not recommend this product.
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Response from Canadian Tire:
4 years ago
MotoMaster
Hello and thank you for your feedback. Four of these batteries connected in series would yield over 700 Ah of capacity. That would be enough capacity to power an average on-grid home for a couple of days. There are countless reasons why you might have had the experience you did. We would recommend consulting with a local solar electrician to ensure your system is adequately designed.
5 out of 5 stars.
Lots of power
4 years ago
I have had this battery for 2 years now. I use it in my RV trailer connected to a 100W solar charging system. It always has plenty of power though I don’t run a power inverter. When not in use I have it connected to a charger maintainer. I store it inside in the winter and monitor the electrolyte levels regularly. It has performed flawlessly for me and I’m very pleased. My battery tray required some modification but its size and weight make it easier to secure and deter theft.
Yes, I recommend this product.
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2 out of 5 stars.
They don't last
4 years ago
Bought one of these batteries it lasted 3 months, got warranty, no problem two months later its causing issues again. Guess I'm Going to need to upgrade. You'd think a battery this big would last.
No, I do not recommend this product.
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Response from Canadian Tire:
4 years ago
MotoMaster
Hello. Thank you for your comments. Certainly, with proper use and care, this deep cycle battery should provides years of reliable service. We would recommend you check your usage to ensure that you are not discharging the battery beyond 50% depth of discharge each time. Severe deep discharges will exponentially reduce the life of a lead-acid battery. If you are, you will need to add more battery capacity to your system. Also, check to ensure that your battery charging source (i.e. battery charger, solar panels, etc.) is adequately sized such that your battery is actually getting fully charged after each use.
Hope these tips help.
5 out of 5 stars.
bonne réserve d'énergie
5 years ago
j'ai installé 2 de ces batteries en parallele au chalet et elles sont tres durables. télé, frigo, éclairage, etc... le voltage descend a 12.2volts et y reste pendant des heures. Le tout est branché sur plaque solaire 350 watts pour la recharge.
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Q: I am adding a 2nd battery to my solar setup in my Van. I travel and sleep inside and want to be sure a group size 8D battery will not let off dangerous fumes in my vehicle.
4 years ago
5 Answers
A: Gassing is part of the charging process - All lead acid batteries, particularly flooded types, will produce hydrogen and oxygen gas under both normal (e.g. during use, during charging) and abnormal (e.g. overcharging) operating conditions. Even when in storage, minor amounts of gas will be produced due to the normal evaporation of water and the tendency to self-discharge.
We recommend the use of a vent tube when the battery cannot be installed in an outdoor or well-ventilated area.
Additionally, with your use of a solar panel, it is highly recommended to use a solar charge controller to protect against overcharging as this would increase the risk of gassing.
4 years ago
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Q: Is there any instruction of how to top up the battery with water?
4 years ago
3 Answers
A: No, but it's a regular lead-Acid battery, so a generic instruction for lead-acid batteries should do.
4 years ago
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Q: good with wind generator?
I noticed with the wind generator, they recommend the 12v Eliminator renewable energy deep cycle battery at $299.99 its a sealed battery & provides 100ah at 100hr.
I need help figuring out which one is best to go with.
12 years ago
2 Answers
A: That should be 1 amp for 100hours or 100amps for 1 hour either way it works out the same so that is 1200 watts for 1 hour or 12 watts for 100 hours but you should never uses more than 40% to 50% of the stored power in the battery before you start recharging it so that means you should have more than one battery in Parallel to give you more power to use between charges.
12 years ago
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Q: Will it work with Eliminator 3000W?
Will the battery work with the MotoMaster Eliminator 3,000W Power Inverter?
I want to be able to use TV's, laptops continuously plugged in to the inverter. Will this work? Thank you.
13 years ago
2 Answers
A: Being a 12volt battery and having 200 ah 12x 200=2400watts for 1 hour of use this will drain the battery so if you add 2 battery's in Parallel you will get 12 volts 400 amphours which =4800 watts for 1 hour of use but if you use half the wattage 2400 watts it will last for 2 hours but most AC items don't use that much wattage unless it is a heater or blowdryer so the less wattage used the longer that battery will last and most battery should not be discharged past the half way mark or it will decrease the life time of the battery.
12 years ago
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Q: Hi what should I set the charge parameters for the Nautilus 10-3029-2 8D battery to with solar charge controllers 48 volt battery bank.
5 years ago
1 Answer
A: What parameters you require depends on your charging equipment - some require fewer, some ask for more. These are the fundamental parametres:
Bulk current - Ideal 25A, max 55A
Bulk/Absorption Charge - 58.8V*
Float - 54.0V*
Equalize - 64.8V*
*If possible, temperature compensation is recommended. To compensate for battery temperature not at 20°C, subtract 0.005 V/cell for each 1°C above 20°C; add 0.005 V/cell for each 1°C under 20°C.
5 years ago
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Q: I have one 250W solar panel, 30A 21V Charge Controller, a 1500W inverter - is the charge controller adequate? I am only running laptops, phones, internet and charging a solar generator. No appliances. Building up a system slowly.
5 years ago
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A: It's very difficult to answer your question without specific data about how much power you are actually using (removing from the battery). Granted, the devices you listed don't generally consume too much power.
Your 250W solar panel generates about 13-15 amps in IDEAL conditions. That should be more than enough to keep your 185 Ah battery charged based on the loads you described - in summer. Winter becomes much more challenging because of the lack of sun. Your charge controller (which I assume you meant to say is 12V) will allow you up to 30A of capacity, so your next best move (when you're ready) is to purchase another 250W of solar panel thereby doubling your charging power.
Since you've just assembled this system, pay attention to how it's performing daily. Check battery and/or the charge controller. If it's turning off/saying "Charged" then you know your solar panel is keeping up with your power you are using (draining from the battery). If not, then you'll definitely require more solar panel.
BTW, whenever possible (i.e. if ever not being used, like overnight?), turn the inverter completely off. It draws probably 0.5A just sitting ON so that can save a bit of battery discharge. When living off battery power, every little bit of conversation helps.
Also, some of the devices you listed may not be compatible with a Modified Sine Wave inverter (assuming this is what you bought). If you find any of your devices not charging/working or behaving oddly, to save money relative to purchasing a large Pure Sine Wave inverter, you can consider purchasing a small one (like 500W) for just the devices that don't work on your MSW inverter (if any).
5 years ago
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Q: Thank you for answering my other question, it was very helpful. I should have also asked about how it works in the winter months as I intend to use it all year round. Thank you again.
5 years ago
1 Answer
A: The challenge you're going to have with keeping any battery outdoors in winter is that (1) batteries simply don't charge well in freezing temperatures and (2) the amount of sunlight in winter is minimal. Battery charging is a chemical process and, putting it simply, the chemical process that happens inside a lead-acid battery is severally slowed down. Compound that in your situation with the fact that you're using solar panels (as opposed to a battery charger) to charge the battery. While there's an abundance of sun in the summer, this is not the case in the winter (and/or panels get covered in snow) so your charging capability (power & time) is a fraction of what it is in the summer.
A fully charged lead-acid battery won't freeze until about -67 degrees C. So you challenge is to keep it as charged as possible (i.e. minimizing discharge level and ensure some means of recharging the battery fully every day).
On this front, an AGM battery does provide some benefit over flooded lead-acid in that it's charge acceptance is much better - about twice as efficient.
Bottom line, if keeping batteries outdoors in Canadian winters, you'll notice less power (compared to summer) and you'll be challenged to keep the battery fully charged. If you can, installing the batteries in some sort of shelter (and ideally, temperature controlled) would be your better option.
5 years ago
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Q: I just purchased this battery and an Eliminator 1500W inverter to connect to my solar panel. Can these batteries work with an inverter? Should I exchange it for an AGM or Gel battery?!
5 years ago
1 Answer
A: This is an excellent battery to use with an inverter. Ensure you have enough solar panel to allow it to fully charge. (Not allowing a battery to fully charge will gradually diminish it's capacity.)
5 years ago
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Q: Is there any studs to bolt connections on with buts
5 years ago
1 Answer
A: This battery has SAE automotive posts. An 8D battery with stud/bolt connectors is not available.
5 years ago
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Q: Thanks for answering my previous question so quickly, I appreciate it.
Would you happen to know how to figure out the charging parameters? I can’t find them anywhere. Bulk, Absorb, and Float voltage and time? Also how low can I safely discharge w/o damag
6 years ago
1 Answer
A: Most people would just use a fully automatic battery charger (preferably a smart charger) and let it do it's thing - life is simpler that way. But if you're willing and able to tackle "manual" charging, we can certainly provide you with the charging parametres. There are many variables (like temperature and depth of discharge, particularly for your time question) which makes it too complex to simply write it out in sentences here, and we aren't able to post .docs or .pdfs. So please give our Customer Service a call at 1-800-387-8803 and request the charging parametres and we can email them to you.
With regards to your second question about discharging, not exactly sure what you're trying to do but, aside from using potentially expensive resistors, a 12V car headlight makes a pretty inexpensive and measurable power draw.
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